This was a blog that may never have been. I felt it best to wait until the final result of Arsenal's clash with Stoke before writing about the Potters, for fear of post-defeat doom ignoring the point in favour of 'who cares if it wins you matches'-style hand-wringing.

Fortunately, we bask today in a victorious glow, a victory both moral and physical. And it was a physical game. Rugby is a physical sport.

Anti-football

Arsenal fans hate Stoke fans. Stoke fans hate Arsenal fans. Arsenal players hate Stoke players and vice versa, and even the two managers hate each other. And it's for so many reasons.

The most obvious is the Shawcross incident that jeopardized Aaron Ramsey's career, and the lack of any kind of sympathy from Stoke, to a worrying degree.

Tony Pulis said that Arsene Wenger could 'keep his opinions' about the challenge when all he said was that it was unacceptable, which is true, and England international Shawcross (To write that made me scream at the heavens' apologised to Ramsey for the 'accident'.

The sheer audacity of these quotes has been gone over again and again, and I don't care to tread old ground. The issues Arsenal have with Stoke are ideological.

Phil McNulty of the BBC waxed lyrical about Stoke when they defeated Liverpool 3-1, questioning why people had issues with their 'long-ball, direct style' and suggesting snobbery was to blame.

After all, Stoke defend very well, and they get the results to stay mid-table. Perhaps they do. Long-ball, direct football has its merits, and can be exciting at times. Not the way Stoke City play it.

Of course Arsenal fans dislike the way Stoke play. Compared to what is served up at the Emirates more often than not it's like tucking into a chip butty as opposed spicy gazpacho. But it's not just snobbery, it's the sheer negativity at every second.

Stoke set out with the express aim of preventing the other team from scoring.

Fine.

But that's their main aim. Not to score, not to win, but to shut out the opposition.

That's not in the spirit of the game. Every throw in, every goal kick is stretched out to make the clock run down faster, and the, frankly, monstrous players Stoke put out every week are only too keen to throw themselves into challenges that will take up time.

It's not sacrificing yourself for the team because Stoke play for nothing.

Painful

Much as I loathe Wilkinson, Shawcross and co, it's Tony Pulis that is the Hitler to the Gestapo of his team.

Marching about dressed like an overgrown ball boy, shouting fruitlessly from under a baseball cap, it's his orders that make Stoke play that way.

They are capable of more, but he wants them to be crushingly negative.

It's horrible.

He has no intentions of changing it, because it keeps Stoke afloat. Stoke aren't poor, they aren't the little man. They may not be loaded, but neither are Swansea or Norwich. They do alright. Pulis has spent decent money on Michael Kightly and Steven N'Zonzi, players who are more technical that normal Stoke fare. Stoke have a +£120 million net spend compared to Arsenal Do we notice this?

Absolutely not.

His quotes after the game yesterday were unbelievable. After Arsenal's goal was correctly given despite a linesman trying to rule that Giroud being offside while not interfering with play was an issue, he suggested that officials 'don't know what offside is anymore', and that Arsenal's players complaining to the referee impacted the decision.

Poor Stoke.

Not like three of their orcs weren't doing the same.

Pulis likes to complain about the downfall of traditional football. You can't tackle anymore. People don't like direct football. Arsenal don't like it up 'em. Pathetic. Football the way Pulis clearly remembers it was boring, tribal and blighted by hooliganism. Arsenal are everything Stoke stand against, and vice versa.

And that's why Arsenal have a problem with Stoke. Not snobbery. Morality.

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-2 #21 stoke 72 2013-02-04 14:39
one - nil to the Netball team - what a bunch of pussys - I'll huff and i'll puff and i'll blow you team down.
Huth only farted and walcott fell over!!!
Quoting Alan Radmall:
One - Nill to the football team.
One - Nill to the football team.
One - Nill to the football team.
#20 Alan Radmall 2013-02-04 14:05
One - Nill to the football team.
One - Nill to the football team.
One - Nill to the football team.
-1 #19 stoke 72 2013-02-04 13:23
Oi, ming mong, even Arsenal supporters think the Emirates is a library, so don't big yourself up. Mug. Come to an Arsenal match where we play away and you "Stokies" ain't got a look in. For a start we ALWAYS sell out our allocation. Funny, saw loads of empty seats in your section.

As for "girls", you may have the Naughty Forty ander Under 5's, but you NEVER had the bottle to take it to The Herd, even when you were at the **** stained dump called The Victoria Ground. Never! And I had the misfortune to live in Stoke for 3 years when I was at Keele University.

What a wank of a big town.
Quoting robin banks:
Quoting toke:
My first visit to your place, say what you want about our style
Our manager etc but let me tell you I've been to most of the prem grounds now and I would be embarrassed at your supports.
You lot should take a leaf out of our book on football supporters.
Let me tell you your support is shocking.
Passion is a big part of football and the Arsenal supporters need to start selling it in bucket loads at your club shop which is where most of them spend their time.
Stoke will be going nowhere for a long time so just get on with it.
Bye bye girls


Oi, ming mong, even Arsenal supporters think the Emirates is a library, so don't big yourself up. Mug. Come to an Arsenal match where we play away and you "Stokies" ain't got a look in. For a start we ALWAYS sell out our allocation. Funny, saw loads of empty seats in your section.

As for "girls", you may have the Naughty Forty ander Under 5's, but you NEVER had the bottle to take it to The Herd, even when you were at the **** stained dump called The Victoria Ground. Never! And I had the misfortune to live in Stoke for 3 years when I was at Keele University.

What a wank of a big town.


Keele Uni girl eh! explains a lot then. you've got a great ground, excellent players and poor support - no sorry "piss poor support". there would be a better atmosphere at a crown green bowling match.
There is always empty seats in the away end cause your robbing B***ards.
-4 #18 iamsmokey 2013-02-04 11:43
I can remember the Arsenal and the 80s
when they were the roughest team in the Football league in all divisions.
They will not get Championship football next year and will not get in future years because the new clubs are getting better including Stoke and West Ham with all their bullying.
+1 #17 Tony Yeyo 2013-02-04 11:40
Quoting ScotchEggsRule:
Stoke, it's manager, players and fans are an inbred pack of ****s that deserve nothing but being repeatedly flicked in the balls with a large piece of rope.


Me like @ScotchEggsRule
+1 #16 Tony Yeyo 2013-02-04 11:38
Quoting Tony Yeyo:
[quote name="haha"]Meanwhile, Walcott's face gets grazed, and he was down like he was punched and knocked out cold, down and unmving for minutes. The team is a diving, wimpy excuse for playing a man's sport


Did you not see Walcott's swollen eyes, after the game and why is it people that don't know the game well talk trash leave Arsenal be and think of your own teams ok bulldozers of a team..
+2 #15 Tony Yeyo 2013-02-04 11:36
Quoting haha:
Meanwhile, Walcott's face gets grazed, and he was down like he was punched and knocked out cold, down and unmving for minutes. The team is a diving, wimpy excuse for playing a man's sport


Did you not see Walcott's swollen eyes, after the game and why is it people that don't know the that well game talk trash leave Arsenal be and think of your own teams ok bulldozers of a team..
+3 #14 Scfcgaz 2013-02-04 09:43
I,m a Stoke fan and I hate the "football" as much as you. Our away support is dwindling because of crass negative boring tatics, playing for nil nil every away game has got to a lot of Stoke fans. Pulis is a bitter man and will not change his ways, however, the tide is turning against him.....
-4 #13 Gareth 2013-02-03 22:41
You accept that arsenal players dive and admit that it's wrong, but stoke's defense hold, kick and shirt pull!?! Show me a defense in the whole prem that doesn't do this you blinkered bigot! Arsenal are as bad as stoke are as bad as Chelsea etc. etc. it needs sorting, agreed, but it needs sorting because it is universal. Grow up and stop believing your own ***.
+3 #12 don mimson 2013-02-03 19:46
Pulis dressed as a "overgrown ball boy"........Brillian t!
-2 #11 robin banks 2013-02-03 19:19
Quoting haha:
Meanwhile, Walcott's face gets grazed, and he was down like he was punched and knocked out cold, down and unmving for minutes. The team is a diving, wimpy excuse for playing a man's sport


Oi, plank, the next time you win the EPL or do a double then you've earned your right to talk at the table. Till then, *** off you poor person from North Staffordshire. Two Bob Mug.
+1 #10 robin banks 2013-02-03 19:10
Quoting toke:
My first visit to your place, say what you want about our style
Our manager etc but let me tell you I've been to most of the prem grounds now and I would be embarrassed at your supports.
You lot should take a leaf out of our book on football supporters.
Let me tell you your support is shocking.
Passion is a big part of football and the Arsenal supporters need to start selling it in bucket loads at your club shop which is where most of them spend their time.
Stoke will be going nowhere for a long time so just get on with it.
Bye bye girls


Oi, ming mong, even Arsenal supporters think the Emirates is a library, so don't big yourself up. Mug. Come to an Arsenal match where we play away and you "Stokies" ain't got a look in. For a start we ALWAYS sell out our allocation. Funny, saw loads of empty seats in your section.

As for "girls", you may have the Naughty Forty ander Under 5's, but you NEVER had the bottle to take it to The Herd, even when you were at the *** stained dump called The Victoria Ground. Never! And I had the misfortune to live in Stoke for 3 years when I was at Keele University.

What a wank of a big town.
+3 #9 toke 2013-02-03 18:36
My first visit to your place, say what you want about our style
Our manager etc but let me tell you I've been to most of the prem grounds now and I would be embarrassed at your supports.
You lot should take a leaf out of our book on football supporters.
Let me tell you your support is shocking.
Passion is a big part of football and the Arsenal supporters need to start selling it in bucket loads at your club shop which is where most of them spend their time.
Stoke will be going nowhere for a long time so just get on with it.
Bye bye girls
+4 #8 Chinaman 2013-02-03 18:03
The linesman's flag for offside at the free kick was against Walcott not Giroud. https://www.arsenal.com/match-menu/3519421/first-team/arsenal-v-stoke-city?tab=report

Giroud was in line, Walcott had drifted across a little but he was even further away from the active zone. The referee had no choice but to overrule.
+3 #7 Tomas 2013-02-03 17:42
There's a fair amount hypocrisy amongst Premier League managers from Ferguson on down ,And Tony Pulis surely isn't immunned to it either. His complains about the goal being allowed were simply sad and pathetic , but his crusade against player diving is what I find particularly interesting. He sees it as cheating ( which it is) and he wants it punished by points deduction and retrospective suspensions. He has no problem however with his defenders holding , kicking and shirt pulling , as he sees those as part and parcel of the game.
+1 #6 hahaha 2013-02-03 16:59
walcott got hit in the face twice that play, and wilkinson totally reached back to make sure he caught him again in the face, his swing was ridiculous! stoke get away with murder. shawcross only a yellow for the tackle on koscielny? pssh
+4 #5 Lemon Action 2013-02-03 16:34
Well #haha, your captain's mummy has to collect him from games after he cries like a baby
+1 #4 Alan Radmall 2013-02-03 15:43
Nice piece Barnaby. "One - Nill to the football team".
#3 haha 2013-02-03 15:40
Meanwhile, Walcott's face gets grazed, and he was down like he was punched and knocked out cold, down and unmving for minutes. The team is a diving, wimpy excuse for playing a man's sport
+3 #2 Peltonboy 2013-02-03 13:43
There is only one word I would correct in your excellent Blog.
You say Stoke set out to stop us scoring, in fact Stoke set out to stop us playing.
+7 #1 ScotchEggsRule 2013-02-03 13:09
Stoke, it's manager, players and fans are an inbred pack of ***s that deserve nothing but being repeatedly flicked in the balls with a large piece of rope.