Arsenal of Late seem to dominate the summer headlines in 2011 we had the Fabregas & Nasri affair, in 2012 we had Persiegate, this summer we have the never ending tale of Luis Suarez. Nice for a change we’re not the one dealing with the player agitating for a move though Gooners isn’t it?

The latest story run by Sky Sports as of today is:

“Liverpool striker Luis Suarez has 'no plans' to apologise as transfer saga continues”

After the aggravation of last year with “He Who Must Not Be Named“ ( I nearly crashed my car when I heard the transfer announced on the radio on the way home from work) I find it hard not to feel for Liverpool as they are in a far worse position than we were before we had our battle against the many headed adversary of any club “Player Power”.

As much as many would like to see these players rot in the reserves, Wenger made the right decision disgruntled players are an unnecessary distraction, we got 25million depending on where you read and we seemed to regained this team spirit and collective responsibility that we lost somewhere along the way.

Liverpool now face this with Suarez who refuses to apologise for his attempts to engineer a move to the Emirates. Suarez ostracized in training since his now infamous interviews with the Guardian and The Telegraph and will not be brought back into the fold till he apologises to his team mates and fans according to Brendan Rodgers.

Rodgers while trying to remain firm, to me just reeks of desperation to keep the start striker, which at this point has no chance of going back to the rosy “incident free” relationship that once was, even Cavani who recently made his £55m move to Paris St Germain is adding pressure calling for the club to just leave him go.

From Liverpool’s point view they should just get the best price they can as quick as they can and invest as wisely as they have under Rodgers regime and attempt to make some progress back to European football this season.

As an Arsenal fan I feel we have been burned to many times by Player Power to readily stick my hand back in the flames for a man who is already in the process of forcing his second move, a year after signing a new contract especially so soon after Nasri, Van Persie & (to an extent) Fabregas. Especially for a player with such a colourful past who is to cost in excess of £40m.

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#77 Sam 2013-08-16 14:46
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


must say cringe worthy timing id rather michu actually he has the best goals to shots ratio in the premier league


Most arsenal fans won't be happy without a 'name' though that's the problem. Suarez won't be going to arsenal I still want him gone though even if he apologises..hopefully abroad though


yeah but 80% of all football fans on the internet are the same people making the yo mamma jokes on youtube & basing opinions on fifa ratings so i'm not worried about them. i want talent & enthusiasm at my club not a prized show pig


Lol this is true..seasons only a few days away though.. I hate the transfer window I really think they need to shut it before the first game of the season


to true season could do with an extra two weeks added to spread out the games a bit more aswell can get a bit mad with cup runs in patches
+1 #76 Redburns 2013-08-15 21:32
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


must say cringe worthy timing id rather michu actually he has the best goals to shots ratio in the premier league


Most arsenal fans won't be happy without a 'name' though that's the problem. Suarez won't be going to arsenal I still want him gone though even if he apologises..hopefully abroad though


yeah but 80% of all football fans on the internet are the same people making the yo mamma jokes on youtube & basing opinions on fifa ratings so i'm not worried about them. i want talent & enthusiasm at my club not a prized show pig


Lol this is true..seasons only a few days away though.. I hate the transfer window I really think they need to shut it before the first game of the season
#75 Sam 2013-08-15 15:56
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


must say cringe worthy timing id rather michu actually he has the best goals to shots ratio in the premier league


Most arsenal fans won't be happy without a 'name' though that's the problem. Suarez won't be going to arsenal I still want him gone though even if he apologises..hopefully abroad though


yeah but 80% of all football fans on the internet are the same people making the yo mamma jokes on youtube & basing opinions on fifa ratings so i'm not worried about them. i want talent & enthusiasm at my club not a prized show pig
+1 #74 Redburns 2013-08-14 20:46
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


must say cringe worthy timing id rather michu actually he has the best goals to shots ratio in the premier league


Most arsenal fans won't be happy without a 'name' though that's the problem. Suarez won't be going to arsenal I still want him gone though even if he apologises..hopefull y abroad though
#73 Sam 2013-08-14 19:13
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


must say cringe worthy timing id rather michu actually he has the best goals to shots ratio in the premier league
-1 #72 Redburns 2013-08-14 18:28
Didn't Quoting Choco P:
Quoting Redburns:

By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


Redburns must be feeling like a proper **** right about now, classic hoax to get all Liverfool fans hopes up...what a MUG you really are. Probably an Arsenal fan who started it, get your tissues out son and start crying...hes still LEAVING!


Even if he leaves I guarantee he won't be joining arsenal! Put in a bid for michu 30 mill plus a pound i hear he's available! Mug
+1 #71 Choco P 2013-08-14 16:08
Quoting Redburns:

By the way this person is feeling very silly right now


Redburns must be feeling like a proper *** right about now, classic hoax to get all Liverfool fans hopes up...what a MUG you really are. Probably an Arsenal fan who started it, get your tissues out son and start crying...hes still LEAVING!
#70 Redburns 2013-08-14 09:53
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


By the way this person is feeling very silly right now
#69 Redburns 2013-08-13 23:25
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
@Redburns

Haha your comparing the team of today to the Invincibles ? the average age of that team was 29/30 years old they all peaked together thats a team that comes along once in a generation ,no team in england can be compared to it since, and there is proabably only 2 teams in the world that have compared to it in quality since.



and actually that is Arteta's original position he became an attacking midfielder later in his career,

the newest two trends in football is the resurgence of the deep lying playmaker and the ball playing centerback

what do you mean never replaced viera fabregas was his replacement Gilberto was one of the best midfielders in the world at the time and provided better balance

What are you on about you got closer to winning the league than us, your the one who keeps saying a champions league place isnt success why are you using it as an example of success Liverpool have never been further away from the premier league title than the last 4 years how is 7,6,8,7 closer than 3,4,3,4. yeah you won the champions league you were getting destroyed 3-0 in the first half totally out of your depth and AC got ****y and yee came back but also that year you managed to set the record for the first team to win it and not qualify for next season


Yet you have still not won anything or been close to the title since...yh makes sense your right they were able replacements :/


And when I said closer than you to winning it more recently than you I'm referring to 09 when we were second and four points away from winning it...but I still don't call it success..I'm just making a point that its been a very long time since you have even been close to winning anything..and no matter how far we fall..if we get back into the top four I'm pretty sure our p,ayers won't be celebrating on the pitch.,,van Persia must have saw the scenes and thought wow
+1 #68 Redburns 2013-08-13 23:21
Quoting Sam:
@Redburns

Haha your comparing the team of today to the Invincibles ? the average age of that team was 29/30 years old they all peaked together thats a team that comes along once in a generation ,no team in england can be compared to it since, and there is proabably only 2 teams in the world that have compared to it in quality since.

and actually that is Arteta's original position he became an attacking midfielder later in his career,

the newest two trends in football is the resurgence of the deep lying playmaker and the ball playing centerback

what do you mean never replaced viera fabregas was his replacement Gilberto was one of the best midfielders in the world at the time and provided better balance

What are you on about you got closer to winning the league than us, your the one who keeps saying a champions league place isnt success why are you using it as an example of success Liverpool have never been further away from the premier league title than the last 4 years how is 7,6,8,7 closer than 3,4,3,4. yeah you won the champions league you were getting destroyed 3-0 in the first half totally out of your depth and AC got ****y and yee came back but also that year you managed to set the record for the first team to win it and not qualify for next season


Yet you have still not won anything or been close to the title since...yh makes sense your right they were able replacements :/
#67 Sam 2013-08-13 17:28
@Redburns

Haha your comparing the team of today to the Invincibles ? the average age of that team was 29/30 years old they all peaked together thats a team that comes along once in a generation ,no team in england can be compared to it since, and there is proabably only 2 teams in the world that have compared to it in quality since.

and actually that is Arteta's original position he became an attacking midfielder later in his career,

the newest two trends in football is the resurgence of the deep lying playmaker and the ball playing centerback

what do you mean never replaced viera fabregas was his replacement Gilberto was one of the best midfielders in the world at the time and provided better balance

What are you on about you got closer to winning the league than us, your the one who keeps saying a champions league place isnt success why are you using it as an example of success Liverpool have never been further away from the premier league title than the last 4 years how is 7,6,8,7 closer than 3,4,3,4. yeah you won the champions league you were getting destroyed 3-0 in the first half totally out of your depth and AC got ***y and yee came back but also that year you managed to set the record for the first team to win it and not qualify for next season
+1 #66 Redburns 2013-08-13 17:11
Cazorla* good luck for the season anyway I can see this is just going to be back and forth you have your views I have mine
-1 #65 Redburns 2013-08-13 17:08
@ Sam I'm not getting bitchy at all mate.. Everyone is a genius in hindsight.. Just because the players have left have not been as successful since they've moved on doesn't erase the fact that you wanted to keep these players..and you lost them through lack of ambition or just downright stinginess letting top players wind down their contract is not intelligent..even if you have replaced them you could have been in a far stronger position ... Look at van p...I think he's absolute scum for the way he left but had he been on a longer contract you could have got double the money for him and wouldn't have been bullied into leaving for the Scum of all clubs

And Downing was never be a key player and as I said earlier his fee was ridiculous. He was never going to live up to that

Fabregas was class but you have never replaced Veira. Camorra is a gem and an upgrade in Nasri you are right...but even Arteta playing as a holding midfielder..while he is a good player it's not his position.

You can't say you haven't fallen..compare the invincible team to today's team and tell me how many players are upgrades...not a single one
-1 #64 Redburns 2013-08-13 16:55
And if it isn't success..then since your last trophy we have been more successful than you ( champions league winners fa cup and league cup winners fa cup final and league cup final..and been closer to the title more recently than you have)

I didn't for one second say you aren't ahead of us at the moment...but you brought up success and even the staunchest Arsenal fans will say that despite building a new stadium the past decade has been a right off.

I won't even answer the Anfield question. I live in London..just because I don't go to Anfield every home game doesn't somehow devalue my opinions as a fan. That's a ridiculous statement...whether watching live or on the telly I haven't missed a game in near on 18 years. If clubs only relied on their local fan base there would be the money to build stadiums like the Emirates...get with the times it's 2013
-1 #63 Redburns 2013-08-13 16:42
Quoting Choco P:
Redburns, one last thing buddy...at what point whatsoever have i said that 4th is success in anyway? All I have said is that we are currently more successful than Liverpool and comfortably soo. I know 4th doesnt mean ****, and I find it diffucult to accept at times, but the fact is without spending any real money and paying off our stadium over the past 4/5 years, if anything we have over achieved...with a weak squad as ours. You say your a realist, but your club have done nothing but spend money like theres no

tomorrow, made terrible signings, turned on your so called legend of a manager and are now about to lose your best player because he has some ambition, unlike your club. Like I said when you actually win something or finish ahead of us, then by all means pipe up, and until then....keep enjoying your history, as thats all you have son.


So 4th is not success but your more successful than us?thats all you have to show for the last 8 years
+1 #62 PorPor 2013-08-13 15:58
Screw this saga! Bring back Chu Young Park!!!
+1 #61 Choco P 2013-08-13 12:31
@Sam, keep speaking the truth pal...its upsetting old Redburns, its like he is is soooo delusional, that he has started believeing his own crap. In fairness though, he must have a degree in history :)
+3 #60 Choco P 2013-08-13 10:44
Redburns, one last thing buddy...at what point whatsoever have i said that 4th is success in anyway? All I have said is that we are currently more successful than Liverpool and comfortably soo. I know 4th doesnt mean ***, and I find it diffucult to accept at times, but the fact is without spending any real money and paying off our stadium over the past 4/5 years, if anything we have over achieved...with a weak squad as ours. You say your a realist, but your club have done nothing but spend money like theres no tomorrow, made terrible signings, turned on your so called legend of a manager and are now about to lose your best player because he has some ambition, unlike your club. Like I said when you actually win something or finish ahead of us, then by all means pipe up, and until then....keep enjoying your history, as thats all you have son.
+2 #59 Choco P 2013-08-13 10:32
Quoting Redburns:
@Choco P

And I'm not a scouser I'm a Londoner and I started supporting Liverpool because my dad lived there when he came over...and before the inevitable 'glory hunter' comments I started supporting at at time when we hadn't won **** all in years.

You say we haven't had success RECENTLY and that's why I asked how you define it. If its winning the league you haven't won that since 2004 right? If its trophies you haven't won any of those since 2005 and you have no success in Europe in your entire history!

I realise you have come above us for the past few years but 1st is 1st and 2nd is nowhere..your not seriously suggesting that fourth place is success..and that's not me saying 6th is either..but you sound dumb calling success qualifying for a competition you have no hope of winning whilst treading water and selling your best players every year success! As I said you may call us deluded but we know where we are and it takes time to rebuild but your closer to being overtaken by us or Spurs than challenging for the title. If you think that's wrong then it's you who is deluded my friend..


Redburns, I would never call you a glory hunter as you dont even go to games, your just a cut and paste king, who quotes pony blogs as a point of reference! Frankly I find it funny that you are still arguing no valid points whatsoever, and you still didnt answer my question how many times have you actually been to anfield and watched liverpool...I reckon I have been there more times than you watching the Arsenal. You keep going on about defining success, we may not have won the league since 2004 as you so rightly put it, but when was the last time Liverpool won the league....I will give you 10 minutes to do your calculations, as its been that long! We have reached the champions league year in year out, wheteher it be by the skin of our teeth or comfortably, but we are still in it and progressing when everyone writes us off! what exactly are Liverfool doing to progress? You are at least two years behind the likes of your closit fancy club spurs, and at least three years behind us...everton are not even your direct competitors anymore as they have surpassed you too, so please do not talk about success when you know sweet *** all, and you keep quoting HISTORY #BORING! Let go of the past pal, like I said it could be your year...again this year! Ha, Ha, Ha
#58 Sam 2013-08-13 01:28
Quoting Redburns:
@ Sam

I didn't ask if the players who left you have been successful! What happens to them after they leave means nothing. Fact is you lost key players for less than their value because you tried to penny pinch and not offer contracts and left yourselves open o having your pants pulled down on your star players every year.

Wenger has replaced the irreplaceable you said?yh with poorer quality players every year which is why you are getting closer and closer to dropping out the top four every year that passes..I fail to see how you can't see that.

You are left with a squad that are decent players but are devoid of winners and until you significantly strengthen you will be looking over your shoulder rather than in front of you...good luck for the season


ah red your getting bitchy now come now calm down. less than there value ? he sold them for more than the future form warrents every time how is that bad

are you saying fabregas was not of an ilk with viera different players maybe but both world class

carzola for nasri id take anyday the mans a genius

arteta over song no problem again

and you are dodging the question much like you accused choco earlier over who have you replaced the quality that you sold to buy buy those great players

heard you lost your star player to West Ham today ;) that was a nice discount you gave them
-1 #57 Redburns 2013-08-12 23:35
@ Sam

I didn't ask if the players who left you have been successful! What happens to them after they leave means nothing. Fact is you lost key players for less than their value because you tried to penny pinch and not offer contracts and left yourselves open o having your pants pulled down on your star players every year.

Wenger has replaced the irreplaceable you said?yh with poorer quality players every year which is why you are getting closer and closer to dropping out the top four every year that passes..I fail to see how you can't see that.

You are left with a squad that are decent players but are devoid of winners and until you significantly strengthen you will be looking over your shoulder rather than in front of you...good luck for the season
#56 Sam 2013-08-12 23:07
Quoting Redburns:
@ Sam

Flamini was a bonafide first teamer at the time I remember the outrage when he left on a free. Check his appearance stats, in his last season he played nearly all your games so your wrong about that

Henry was worth 40 mill plus at the time..didn't he leave for like 16? Fabregas was worth way more than you sold him for regardless if he wanted to leave, he was your captain. Ditto Veiera, you haven't been the same without him. Kolo you got good money for ill concede but the rest went for way less than they were worth and left because your absolute lack of ambition. Downing was an appalling signing and I have admitted that previously. Jury is still out on Henderson he's young but I can see the potential...calling him **** is short sighted. Adam was pony but we made a 2 million loss...as I said we've been through turmoil with the owners and changes in management but what have you done with your stability?

I respect your opinion though you seem to at least construct an intelligent argument unlike some others on here who are so blinkered its unreal


i didnt say he wasnt a first team player i said that his career as a first team player died when he left arsenal

henry left at the age of 29 after only making maybe what 20 league appearences that year after injury and 18 mill and was replaced by adebayor ...30 goals that season eh ? got half that the next and still got 25m for him?

wenger wasnt forced on viera like i said he flirted with other clubs but he had to let either silva or viera go to play fabregas

each time wenger has replaced the irreplaceable and when the replacements thought they were irreplaceable ...well the hleb's, nasri's and song's of this world are sitting on benches while the cazorla's and arteta's have replaced them

who were alonso and mascherano, torres replaced with again ?

as for stability we've had to sell to buy since our move mate have fun looking up the table at us because we only just got stable ;)
-1 #55 Redburns 2013-08-12 21:24
@ Sam

Flamini was a bonafide first teamer at the time I remember the outrage when he left on a free. Check his appearance stats, in his last season he played nearly all your games so your wrong about that
Henry was worth 40 mill plus at the time..didn't he leave for like 16? Fabregas was worth way more than you sold him for regardless if he wanted to leave, he was your captain. Ditto Veiera, you haven't been the same without him. Kolo you got good money for ill concede but the rest went for way less than they were worth and left because your absolute lack of ambition. Downing was an appalling signing and I have admitted that previously. Jury is still out on Henderson he's young but I can see the potential...calling him *** is short sighted. Adam was pony but we made a 2 million loss...as I said we've been through turmoil with the owners and changes in management but what have you done with your stability?

I respect your opinion though you seem to at least construct an intelligent argument unlike some others on here who are so blinkered its unreal
#54 Redburns 2013-08-12 21:12
@Choco P

Resorting to personal insults because you don't have the intelligence to put across a decent argument?.....classy ! :/

And I'm not a scouser I'm a Londoner and I started supporting Liverpool because my dad lived there when he came over...and before the inevitable 'glory hunter' comments I started supporting at at time when we hadn't won *** all in years.

You say we haven't had success RECENTLY and that's why I asked how you define it. If its winning the league you haven't won that since 2004 right? If its trophies you haven't won any of those since 2005 and you have no success in Europe in your entire history!

I realise you have come above us for the past few years but 1st is 1st and 2nd is nowhere..your not seriously suggesting that fourth place is success..and that's not me saying 6th is either..but you sound dumb calling success qualifying for a competition you have no hope of winning whilst treading water and selling your best players every year success! As I said you may call us deluded but we know where we are and it takes time to rebuild but your closer to being overtaken by us or Spurs than challenging for the title. If you think that's wrong then it's you who is deluded my friend..
#53 Sam 2013-08-12 17:24
Viera was sold probably a year to early but he had been pushing for a big money move for a while before that and was resigned.

henry got 1 fantastic season at barca and began fell down the pecking order.

got the best years out of both.

flamini's career as a first team player i think can fairly be said to have died when he left arsenal pity he had so much potential.

fabregas everyone knew he want to go back to barca understandable its his home, wenger made him a promise and kept it and got a decent fee and we have a clause to buy him back cheaper than we sold him if he ever wants to come back

van p got 25m for a player who stayed fit for a season and a half in the last year of his contract, and could implode at any minute.

then we can go on kolo 25m to city worth maybe 15m at the time at most

Nasri city again last year of his contract would have been happy with that if he had 4 years left on it.

Song 18m considering his development of his bad attitude and has bombed since

and yes they have left but they all get replaced ramsey, wilshere, koscielny, mertesacker, giroud, cazorla, podolski

if you compare that to what liverpool has sold and replaced mascherano, alonso, kuyt for downing, henderson & allen

just because you spend 20m on a player dosnt make them any better than a 200k one
#52 Choco P 2013-08-12 16:59
Redburns, just out of interest how many games have you actually been too, and how long have you supported Liverpool?

Watching on your laptop or sofa doesnt count, and can I guess when you started supporting...
#51 Choco P 2013-08-12 16:21
Redburns dearest, do you not have a job son? oh my bad I forgot your a scouser, benefit kings and all, keep typing and keep claiming! I did not go missing you mug, I went to bed as I have a job unlike you sweet heart. I think you should take 5, and step back and see how desperate and deluded you really sound on your own comments. you talk about success, but you havent had *** for many years now and are no closer, apart from in your own head. We are not in denial, we know we havent won *** in 8 years, but we are still well ahead of you...your squad is pony and no matter what you say, you know its true. You can say all you want about Henderson, but hes the biggest bag of ***e since downing, two great signings. You talk about us letting players run down their contracts, and for once you are right, its a *** stance to take, but the fact is Henry served us more than enough and deserved to leave, RVP...left for the money, and could look a wrong move this coming season, with all direct competitors strengthening and united missing out on numerous targets. We still havent signed anyone, butwe will...so keep waffling and trying to sound smart, but your not, you will be lucky to finish 6th this season at best, and your new saviour Brenda rodgers will be out of a job by the end of the season.
-1 #50 Redburns 2013-08-12 15:06
*12 potentially rising to 16 million
-1 #49 Redburns 2013-08-12 15:04
Quoting Sam:
@Redburns the good business one is probably not the best thing to bring up, henderson, adams & Carrol and so on for example Cazorla, Giroud, Podolski, Mertesacker all cost less than joe allen in terms of selling we have really fleeced teams


Who are these teams you have fleeced just out of interest when selling players?

And when you refer to the times we have been fleeced I'm surprised you don't mention Downing...he was 27 and never worth anywhere near 20. Adam was bought for 7 and we sold him for 5...he was terrible but not the worst business I've ever seen. Carroll looked the real deal at the time even Spurs bid 30 for him and it was rejected and everyone thought he would turn out to be the next big England striker... Again hindsight is a wonderful thing.. You are wrong about Henderson though he will be worth the fee ( we got him for 1/ rising to 16 not 16-20 as the media reported) and has a lot of talent and potential. He's only young and we all know how English players go for a premium
-1 #48 Redburns 2013-08-12 14:52
Quoting Sam:
@Redburns the good business one is probably not the best thing to bring up, henderson, adams & Carrol and so on for example Cazorla, Giroud, Podolski, Mertesacker all cost less than joe allen in terms of selling we have really fleeced teams


In terms of bad bush Ess sense in referring to allowing your key players to run down their contracts trying to save money instead of offering them new deals, then leaving yourself in a position where you get dictated to when these players become disillusioned with your lack of ambition (flamini, Henry, rvp, fabregas, veiira) to name but a few of players who have either left on a free in terms of flamini or at seriously reduced fees and nearly all the players I mentioned were your captains! Is that good business?

I'm not saying Liverpool haven't paid over the odds for players at times and the majority you mentioned were bought when FSG took over. They got the club at a knockdown price and had cash spare and after selling Torres etc... Obviously they were bad moves in hindsight but I'd prefer that to taking the fans money and not spending ala arsenal!

FSG were inexperienced in football and allowed Kenny free rein which obviously was a mistake but I'd prefer seeing us trying to spend money than hoarding it and mugging off the fans tbh
#47 Sam 2013-08-12 14:33
@Redburns the good business one is probably not the best thing to bring up, henderson, adams & Carrol and so on for example Cazorla, Giroud, Podolski, Mertesacker all cost less than joe allen in terms of selling we have really fleeced teams
-1 #46 Redburns 2013-08-12 13:09
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting reddy:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


Wount???, is that Arse-hole slang for WON'T????????. If he is to be sold, it will certainly NOT to you Arse-holes!!!


What if that present company held you by the balls with a contract that stated you can't leave unless they say so? What then? Would they let you go to a rival if you were the best at your job and they had the option of making you go elsewhere?

Don't compare football to real life, it's ridiculous and makes you look quite silly...and learn how to spell if you want to put across an intelligent argument :)


And for the record points 2 and 3 are the same and adding a point 3 1/2 may have sounded clever in your head but it makes you look like an imbecile.

I know good business sense might be alien to Arsenal after the way you've had your pants pulled down in deals over the last few years but everyone knows this 'he's going nowhere' stance is just posturing to get the most we can. Nobody at Liverpool is under any illusions that he's staying. Once you say he's gone in public that weakens your position considerably. How Arsenal fans fail to grasp this is amusing. He will do but on terms that suit us which is only right
+1 #45 Redburns 2013-08-12 12:46
Quoting reddy:
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


Wount???, is that Arse-hole slang for WON'T????????. If he is to be sold, it will certainly NOT to you Arse-holes!!!


What if that present company held you by the balls with a contract that stated you can't leave unless they say so? What then? Would they let you go to a rival if you were the best at your job and they had the option of making you go elsewhere?

Don't compare football to real life, it's ridiculous and makes you look quite silly...and learn how to spell if you want to put across an intelligent argument :)
-1 #44 reddy 2013-08-12 11:56
Quoting Previgo:
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold


Wount???, is that Arse-hole slang for WON'T????????. If he is to be sold, it will certainly NOT to you Arse-holes!!!
#43 Redburns 2013-08-12 00:08
Quoting nkusuny:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting nkusuny:
liverpool is taking a risk that is going to back fire, in they force Suarez to stay. (a) he's going to disrupt the dressing room. (b) if he plays he's not going to give his all. (c) he can cause havoc that can get him bound for the whole season. (d) no player is bigger than a club. Mean while, Liverpool should put away their ego of past glory, and face the fact that Arsenal is a bigger club to them now. Arsenal is a top 4 club while Liverpool is top 8, fact. Even if Suarez remains with liverpool, Arsenal will still finish ahead of them. So liverpool play it wise and see how much u can get from the sale of this guy, and move on.


Or we could stick to your guns and not sell to a club we are competing for 4th place with..that would be smarter don't you think? I like the 'Liverpool should just sell him ' comments like there is no other option...Arsenal would be the worst club to sell to at this point

While we are on the subject please stop going on like you are guaranteed top 4., you made it by the skin of your teeth the last few years and your rivals have strengthened while you have lost squad players and not strengthened at all..

looking at deluded liverpool's current squad, as our direct competitors for top four, like u said, i can say, yes we are quaranteed top four finish. Yes we have cleared our dead woods (squad players) which is a move in right direction for us. But rememeber that we still have the squad that accumulated, the highest point in the 2nd half of last season's epl. With the injection of young bloods like Zezalem, akpon, Gnabry and the cash we have on hand to spend, the fact remains tha we are competing with chelsea, Man u and City not pool.


Your squad is closer to ours than the teams you just mentioned in terms of quality. And as I Said as things stand Tottenham's squad is stronger than yours at present...so while you have more chance than us of making top 4 I'd say Tottenham have a better chance than you at the moment of making top 4

So no you are guaranteed nothing
-1 #42 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:58
Then you have clowns like Choco P saying "Surely if you have to go back that many years to talk about success then you cant claim you are a bigger club than Arsenal' yet when I ask him to define success he goes missing. Fact remains that while its commendable that you have kept qualifying for the Champions League, that is not success..that's meant to give you a platform to compete and buy better players to try and have a crack at the title. I don't remember any Liverpool fan ever celebrating top 4 when we got there year in year out...it's a defeatist attitude.

You can talk about lack of funds because of the stadium move but you have had a stable manager and board yet still have won nothing or been close to the title for a very long time (Liverpool have even been closer more recently). And no matter how you look at it that is failure.
-2 #41 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:50
Quoting Sam:
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
yes but before chelsea entered the fray Utd and Arsenal were "largely" unchallenged then arsenal moved at the same time.

worst thing that ever happened to Liverpool was benitez he piggy backed off houllier's team which if it was kept together would have broken liverpools premier league duck.



when you think about Arsenal are only second to the super-spenders so i dont think much more could be expected, in fact it makes the champions league spot all the more impressive

but in all seriousness if liverpool managed to sell suarez a month ago i think they could have been serious contenders for the champions league spot becuse of the fact they dont have any of the extra european games and rodgers has spent any money he's got well. In fairness Dagleish was a disaster with the money he got


I agree this is why I had a lot of respect for Arsenal before this. Liverpool and Arsenal are the only 2 clubs that have challenged the dominance of the plastiics and the Scum over the last decade


I think you will be suprised just how good arsenal will be this year though, especially by Giroud Liverpool fans always laugh when i say it some Arsenal fans too, but im not worried if we dont sign a striker this year


I could say the same to you. I don't think we are as bad as people make out.. Arsenal are a good team I agree, and I think Giroud is a good player but the problem still seems to be the depth of your squad. First team can compete with anyone on the day, much like us. Any injuries and your in a bit of a pickle though. I think the problem is that Arsenal fans in one breath berate Wenger and the board for lacking ambition, then scoff at Liverpool like we are so far away from you. I'm far from deluded and I know where we are at and that rebuilding takes time after so much turmoil. It burns Arsenal fans to admit that fourth place will be a struggle unless a few quality players are brought in. That's the reality
+2 #40 Sam 2013-08-11 23:41
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting Sam:
yes but before chelsea entered the fray Utd and Arsenal were "largely" unchallenged then arsenal moved at the same time.

worst thing that ever happened to Liverpool was benitez he piggy backed off houllier's team which if it was kept together would have broken liverpools premier league duck.



when you think about Arsenal are only second to the super-spenders so i dont think much more could be expected, in fact it makes the champions league spot all the more impressive

but in all seriousness if liverpool managed to sell suarez a month ago i think they could have been serious contenders for the champions league spot becuse of the fact they dont have any of the extra european games and rodgers has spent any money he's got well. In fairness Dagleish was a disaster with the money he got


I agree this is why I had a lot of respect for Arsenal before this. Liverpool and Arsenal are the only 2 clubs that have challenged the dominance of the plastiics and the Scum over the last decade


I think you will be suprised just how good arsenal will be this year though, especially by Giroud Liverpool fans always laugh when i say it some Arsenal fans too, but im not worried if we dont sign a striker this year
+1 #39 nkusuny 2013-08-11 23:39
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting nkusuny:
liverpool is taking a risk that is going to back fire, in they force Suarez to stay. (a) he's going to disrupt the dressing room. (b) if he plays he's not going to give his all. (c) he can cause havoc that can get him bound for the whole season. (d) no player is bigger than a club. Mean while, Liverpool should put away their ego of past glory, and face the fact that Arsenal is a bigger club to them now. Arsenal is a top 4 club while Liverpool is top 8, fact. Even if Suarez remains with liverpool, Arsenal will still finish ahead of them. So liverpool play it wise and see how much u can get from the sale of this guy, and move on.


Or we could stick to your guns and not sell to a club we are competing for 4th place with..that would be smarter don't you think? I like the 'Liverpool should just sell him ' comments like there is no other option...Arsenal would be the worst club to sell to at this point

While we are on the subject please stop going on like you are guaranteed top 4., you made it by the skin of your teeth the last few years and your rivals have strengthened while you have lost squad players and not strengthened at all..

looking at deluded liverpool's current squad, as our direct competitors for top four, like u said, i can say, yes we are quaranteed top four finish. Yes we have cleared our dead woods (squad players) which is a move in right direction for us. But rememeber that we still have the squad that accumulated, the highest point in the 2nd half of last season's epl. With the injection of young bloods like Zezalem, akpon, Gnabry and the cash we have on hand to spend, the fact remains tha we are competing with chelsea, Man u and City not pool.
+3 #38 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:28
Quoting Sam:
yes but before chelsea entered the fray Utd and Arsenal were "largely" unchallenged then arsenal moved at the same time.

worst thing that ever happened to Liverpool was benitez he piggy backed off houllier's team which if it was kept together would have broken liverpools premier league duck.



when you think about Arsenal are only second to the super-spenders so i dont think much more could be expected, in fact it makes the champions league spot all the more impressive

but in all seriousness if liverpool managed to sell suarez a month ago i think they could have been serious contenders for the champions league spot becuse of the fact they dont have any of the extra european games and rodgers has spent any money he's got well. In fairness Dagleish was a disaster with the money he got


I agree this is why I had a lot of respect for Arsenal before this. Liverpool and Arsenal are the only 2 clubs that have challenged the dominance of the plastiics and the Scum over the last decade
#37 Sam 2013-08-11 23:21
yes but before chelsea entered the fray Utd and Arsenal were "largely" unchallenged then arsenal moved at the same time.

worst thing that ever happened to Liverpool was benitez he piggy backed off houllier's team which if it was kept together would have broken liverpools premier league duck.

when you think about Arsenal are only second to the super-spenders so i dont think much more could be expected, in fact it makes the champions league spot all the more impressive

but in all seriousness if liverpool managed to sell suarez a month ago i think they could have been serious contenders for the champions league spot becuse of the fact they dont have any of the extra european games and rodgers has spent any money he's got well. In fairness Dagleish was a disaster with the money he got
#36 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:14
Quoting Choco P:
Redburns, I thought you were just a standard issue "Deluded fan", but your starting to sound like a Tottenham fan now pal, leave it out, its not nice, nor clever...4th is no success by any means but its still way ahead of 6th or 8th...or wherever you usually finish. Just remember 4th is also Champions League, something you only have in your past. Dont worry though this year is going to be your year, just like the past 5 hey!



Oh dear she seems to have scuttled off...truth hurts buddy
-1 #35 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:13
True but you must admit wenger has an annoying habit of doing it, well every other season everyone would say we've weakened the reality of it is the team is in general quite young so by their natural progression they should improve, spurs have improved but they are spending the bale money they've spent £48m so far they cant afford it without selling bale

To be fair you have been weaker every season though..top 4 used to be a given for Arsenal but the last few years its been closer and closer..Arsenal are slowly slipping..
#34 Geoffrey Muyinda 2013-08-11 23:11
How i wish this whole Suarez thing ends coz it ain't doin' either party any good en its also a lesson to Wenger that you don't just let go of your best like he has been doin' of late.
+2 #33 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:04
Quoting Choco P:
Redburns, I thought you were just a standard issue "Deluded fan", but your starting to sound like a Tottenham fan now pal, leave it out, its not nice, nor clever...4th is no success by any means but its still way ahead of 6th or 8th...or wherever you usually finish. Just remember 4th is also Champions League, something you only have in your past. Dont worry though this year is going to be your year, just like the past 5 hey!


And you didn't answer my question on how you define success? Not as clever as you think you are
-2 #32 Redburns 2013-08-11 23:02
Quoting Choco P:
Redburns, I thought you were just a standard issue "Deluded fan", but your starting to sound like a Tottenham fan now pal, leave it out, its not nice, nor clever...4th is no success by any means but its still way ahead of 6th or 8th...or wherever you usually finish. Just remember 4th is also Champions League, something you only have in your past. Dont worry though this year is going to be your year, just like the past 5 hey!


I'm not a Tottenham fan. I'm a realist though and as things stand they have a better squad than you. No ones saying 6th is good but we only want fourth so we are in a position to push on...arsenal seem content to tread water at 4th and show no ambition

And we have won the champions league. Your chances of doing that are remote. Your involvement in it is akin to visiting a brothel and having a w@nk in the corner as someone so aptly commented on another thread.

Your not as good as you think you are. We have been through management and ownership turmoil over the last few years and are rebuilding..what have you done with your stability? You talk about living in the past when we have won a champions league, fa cup and league cup and got to another champions league final to boot since you last won anything..,plus we've been closer to the league title more recently than Arsenal
#31 Sam 2013-08-11 23:01
Quoting Redburns:
Quoting nkusuny:
liverpool is taking a risk that is going to back fire, in they force Suarez to stay. (a) he's going to disrupt the dressing room. (b) if he plays he's not going to give his all. (c) he can cause havoc that can get him bound for the whole season. (d) no player is bigger than a club. Mean while, Liverpool should put away their ego of past glory, and face the fact that Arsenal is a bigger club to them now. Arsenal is a top 4 club while Liverpool is top 8, fact. Even if Suarez remains with liverpool, Arsenal will still finish ahead of them. So liverpool play it wise and see how much u can get from the sale of this guy, and move on.


Or we could stick to your guns and not sell to a club we are competing for 4th place with..that would be smarter don't you think? I like the 'Liverpool should just sell him ' comments like there is no other option...Arsenal would be the worst club to sell to at this point

While we are on the subject please stop going on like you are guaranteed top 4., you made it by the skin of your teeth the last few years and your rivals have strengthened while you have lost squad players and not strengthened at all..


True but you must admit wenger has an annoying habit of doing it, well every other season everyone would say we've weakened the reality of it is the team is in general quite young so by their natural progression they should improve, spurs have improved but they are spending the bale money they've spent £48m so far they cant afford it without selling bale
+3 #30 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:56
Quoting nkusuny:
liverpool is taking a risk that is going to back fire, in they force Suarez to stay. (a) he's going to disrupt the dressing room. (b) if he plays he's not going to give his all. (c) he can cause havoc that can get him bound for the whole season. (d) no player is bigger than a club. Mean while, Liverpool should put away their ego of past glory, and face the fact that Arsenal is a bigger club to them now. Arsenal is a top 4 club while Liverpool is top 8, fact. Even if Suarez remains with liverpool, Arsenal will still finish ahead of them. So liverpool play it wise and see how much u can get from the sale of this guy, and move on.


Or we could stick to your guns and not sell to a club we are competing for 4th place with..that would be smarter don't you think? I like the 'Liverpool should just sell him ' comments like there is no other option...Arsenal would be the worst club to sell to at this point

While we are on the subject please stop going on like you are guaranteed top 4., you made it by the skin of your teeth the last few years and your rivals have strengthened while you have lost squad players and not strengthened at all..
-4 #29 Choco P 2013-08-11 22:54
Redburns, I thought you were just a standard issue "Deluded fan", but your starting to sound like a Tottenham fan now pal, leave it out, its not nice, nor clever...4th is no success by any means but its still way ahead of 6th or 8th...or wherever you usually finish. Just remember 4th is also Champions League, something you only have in your past. Dont worry though this year is going to be your year, just like the past 5 hey!
-1 #28 nkusuny 2013-08-11 22:48
liverpool is taking a risk that is going to back fire, in they force Suarez to stay. (a) he's going to disrupt the dressing room. (b) if he plays he's not going to give his all. (c) he can cause havoc that can get him bound for the whole season. (d) no player is bigger than a club. Mean while, Liverpool should put away their ego of past glory, and face the fact that Arsenal is a bigger club to them now. Arsenal is a top 4 club while Liverpool is top 8, fact. Even if Suarez remains with liverpool, Arsenal will still finish ahead of them. So liverpool play it wise and see how much u can get from the sale of this guy, and move on.
+4 #27 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:44
Maybe I'm old school but I remember when being fourth best was failure
+3 #26 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:42
Quoting Choco P:
Redburns, in response to your intrest....Surely if you have to go back that many years to talk about success then you cant claim you are a bigger club than Arsenal. I am an Arsenal fan and I look at Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City and think they are big clubs, and direct competition. I am not "DELUDED" enough to think we stand a chance of winning the league with our current squad, but with a few additions, we can only go forward. LFC still need another season at least, before you come anywhere beyond 6th, but thats my oppinion. Liverpool have great history, but are nowhere near Arsenal's level currently.

P.s. Did you here ESPN Football Classics stopped broadcasting this weekend, I feel sorry for all LFC fans :)



How do you define success?please enlighten me...we have won a few things since 2005
-1 #25 Reddy 2013-08-11 22:41
Quoting Choco P:
The one pound bid was dispespectful to LFC, who all round are a bigger club than AFC, but the fact is not for many years now...fact! At the end of the day Liverpool are no saints, sitting there acting like victims, didnt Liverpool do exactly the same thing last year to Fulham, by trying to get Dempsey, by activating a similr claus that no one was supposed to know about?! And he choose Tottenham, who finish ahead of you most seasons too. Nothing desperate about the comments "Redburns", just the truth. You might want to stop living off past glory days and memories, the fact is LFC are a mid table club now, with average players and no Champions league football since when?? Stop thinking Arsenal are direct competition, as they are way ahead...even with a thin squad. Suarez will be sold to AFC...well I hope anyway ;)


@choco p ....keep on hoping m8ty, cause it will only happen in your deluded comatose state!!!
+1 #24 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:40
Quoting Sam:
@Redburns i don't think the +£1 was actually meant as a slight i think the papers made more of that for sales than anything.

Personally i think Arsenal thought Suarez had a release in his contract for a bid over £40m and that the +1 was just to activate it



I think it was a little bit..usually if someone has a release clause of 40 mill for example..the buying club bids 40 mill. I've never even heard of a pound being added. I think it was a two finger salute and quite tacky and it infuriated our board..,hence why now we are loathe to sell to you unless its an inflated fee...
-2 #23 Choco P 2013-08-11 22:39
Redburns, in response to your intrest....Surely if you have to go back that many years to talk about success then you cant claim you are a bigger club than Arsenal. I am an Arsenal fan and I look at Man Utd, Chelsea and Man City and think they are big clubs, and direct competition. I am not "DELUDED" enough to think we stand a chance of winning the league with our current squad, but with a few additions, we can only go forward. LFC still need another season at least, before you come anywhere beyond 6th, but thats my oppinion. Liverpool have great history, but are nowhere near Arsenal's level currently.

P.s. Did you here ESPN Football Classics stopped broadcasting this weekend, I feel sorry for all LFC fans :)
+3 #22 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:37
Quoting @babangees:
Liverfool should get rid of Suarez,he's no longer usefull to them,Liverpool stop decieving your self it takes spectaculer players to build a strong team not everage players like yours,Suarez isn't your type let him play Champions league football


I could name at least 5 players that would get into your first team..which is near enough half..we ain't as average as you think ;)
-2 #21 Sam 2013-08-11 22:36
@Redburns i don't think the +£1 was actually meant as a slight i think the papers made more of that for sales than anything.

Personally i think Arsenal thought Suarez had a release in his contract for a bid over £40m and that the +1 was just to activate it
-4 #20 @babangees 2013-08-11 22:34
Liverfool should get rid of Suarez,he's no longer usefull to them,Liverpool stop decieving your self it takes spectaculer players to build a strong team not everage players like yours,Suarez isn't your type let him play Champions league football
+3 #19 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:32
Quoting Sam:
@Redburns much appreciated, true Cavani doesn't really matter the fact that he's interfering is more so included as the headline is player power


Fair point! I'm just on attack mode with Arsenal fans at the moment lol I'm living in London and have had it up to my neck with Arsenal fans gloating at the minute as you can imagine lol I actually had a lot of respect for Arsenal as a club before this saga... Not saying you have no right to bid for our players it was just underhand and tacky in my opinion and back fired a little.,,I think we would have sold to Arsenal at 50-55 had that £1 not been added
+2 #18 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:28
Choco P who are your direct competitors just out of interest? Please tell me your not one of them fans that think you an challenge for the title with your current squad surely? I'm a realist. I'm not pretending Arenal don't have the better team at present but we are closer to you than you would like to admit. We are both competing for fourth place as much as you may think you are better than that its the reality.You have a better chance than us but in my opinion you have the 5th best squad in the league and we have the 6th (at present). I can make a comparison even with tottenhams squad if you like but I wouldn't want to make things uncomfortable...and they call us delusional? Lol
+1 #17 Sam 2013-08-11 22:27
@Redburns much appreciated, true Cavani doesn't really matter the fact that he's interfering is more so included as the headline is player power
-4 #16 zico59 2013-08-11 22:24
I wouldn't be taking advice from some one who has trouble spelling properly. "Theirs" as you put it is spelt "THERE'S", ok! And don't be so sure your lot wun't sell Suarez to us, as when on the plane flying to Ireland on friday, your managing director, ian ayre, had to listen to a barrage of calls for Suarez to be sold by your own fans. And now, i'm just waitng for your first home game where your fans will be screaming for him to be sold, forcing the board to change THEIR mind and sell him to the Arsenal you BIN DIPPER!!!
+1 #15 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:22
as i said in the article above I don't want him. He way overpriced agitates for moves at a whim and far to much of a colourful past

I just stated that you would be better off selling him sturridge has been fantastic get him cover and proper support and you'll do far better without the controversy or would you disagree?


Comment wasn't directed at the article as such..more towards the majority of Arsenal fans I know will comment at some point...the Cavani quotes do keep coming up though like it matters what he says :/
-3 #14 Previgo 2013-08-11 22:19
On the suarez saga, i dont see why suarez would or should apologise, like i'm asked to apologise to my present company for seeking a better job in another company? Pathetic thats what i call it. There are 3things in this suarez issue.
1. He wount apologise
2. He wount stay @pool for sure
3. He will be sold
3 & a 1/2. POOL will look very stupid after he is sold
-1 #13 Choco P 2013-08-11 22:19
Red Hot Louie, your laughable son. I was just stating some facts thats all. You can call it attention seeking, but you seem to be the only mug to respond...to a tongue in cheek comment. just adding a bit of banter to a boring saga, I feel for both sets of fans.
-1 #12 Sam 2013-08-11 22:17
Quoting Redburns:
Cavani who recently made his £55m move to Paris St Germain is adding pressure calling for the club to just leave him go.

Ahhh Edison 'ill go anywhere for the money' Cavani has weighed in as he? I guess we better just sell to Arsenal now then :/ what the hell has his opinion got to do with anything?

I notice how Arsenal fans were all over the place rubbing it in when they thought 40+1 was enough..gone abit quiet now though...And I think Arsenal fans are the ones who are desperate. Weren't they calling him a racist cannibal a few months back? Pay the fee or move on...I keep hearing how rich Asenal are these days. Shouldn't be a need for such desperation. Or maybe it's because he is the only 'name' left on the market who would even consider Arsenal?


as i said in the article above I don't want him. He way overpriced agitates for moves at a whim and far to much of a colourful past

I just stated that you would be better off selling him sturridge has been fantastic get him cover and proper support and you'll do far better without the controversy or would you disagree?
#11 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:16
@choco p... No Dempsey didn't have a release clause he was in the last year of his deal and we wouldn't meet Fulhams price tag...Spurs did and he went to them....know the facts in future before you mouth off buddy ;)
+1 #10 Choco P 2013-08-11 22:13
The one pound bid was dispespectful to LFC, who all round are a bigger club than AFC, but the fact is not for many years now...fact! At the end of the day Liverpool are no saints, sitting there acting like victims, didnt Liverpool do exactly the same thing last year to Fulham, by trying to get Dempsey, by activating a similr claus that no one was supposed to know about?! And he choose Tottenham, who finish ahead of you most seasons too. Nothing desperate about the comments "Redburns", just the truth. You might want to stop living off past glory days and memories, the fact is LFC are a mid table club now, with average players and no Champions league football since when?? Stop thinking Arsenal are direct competition, as they are way ahead...even with a thin squad. Suarez will be sold to AFC...well I hope anyway ;)
-1 #9 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:13
Cavani who recently made his £55m move to Paris St Germain is adding pressure calling for the club to just leave him go.

Ahhh Edison 'ill go anywhere for the money' Cavani has weighed in as he? I guess we better just sell to Arsenal now then :/ what the hell has his opinion got to do with anything?

I notice how Arsenal fans were all over the place rubbing it in when they thought 40+1 was enough..gone abit quiet now though...And I think Arsenal fans are the ones who are desperate. Weren't they calling him a racist cannibal a few months back? Pay the fee or move on...I keep hearing how rich Asenal are these days. Shouldn't be a need for such desperation. Or maybe it's because he is the only 'name' left on the market who would even consider Arsenal?
#8 Sam 2013-08-11 22:12
@Red hot louie keep it respectful please , every club say's they wont sell Liverpool did it with Torres the only thing that's changed since is that Rodgers is the manager now
-2 #7 nOTgUNNERgEThIM 2013-08-11 22:06
after all that is said and done, gooners still think theirs a hope? get a bloody grip it's never going to happen not to arsenal anyway. Your not good enough for a player of suarez quality, he will be sold abroad or maybe chelsea but you need to do yourselves a favour and let go, its pathetic
#6 Previgo 2013-08-11 22:06
Sorry for going off topic, but shouldn't we be gunning for toby anderwerald(not sure of the spelling) ?? The lad is a young version of both vermaelen and vertoghen, pairring him with kosielny would be the real deal.
-1 #5 Red hot louie 2013-08-11 22:04
Chocolate brains above obviously your not a clever chap , some 1 who looks like there looking for a bit of response ( attention ) probably never got much as a child ! Feel for yeah.
-1 #4 Red hot louie 2013-08-11 22:02
So what your saying is LFC should sell Suarez quick and get the best price! Who to ? Arsenal? What good is that going to do us ? None at all , HE WILL NOT BE SOLD TO ARSENAL , the owners no that because if they do the fans will heap the pressure on them to get out , also it would send a statement out that we an be bullied by are rivals, also it will strengthen AFC and weak in LFC and also make the owners and Rodgers look very silly ! So I think am safe to say , Suarez will be staying , weather he likes it or not.
+2 #3 Sam 2013-08-11 22:01
@choco p All valid points the the transfer clause is interesting it looks like liverpool did decieve suarez, he seemed so sure of the clause

I think i saw an article somewhere yesterday on liverpool having a history with ambiguos clauses's I may try get the link for here
#2 Redburns 2013-08-11 22:01
Everyone knows he needs to be sold his position is untenable. The club taking this stance is not desperate, it's good business sense. As soon as you say he's gone the price tag drops even further.

I also respect the stance because the £1 added was a cheap shot and you know it. I don't want him going to Arsenal out of principle. The "desperate" comments are laughable. Why sell him to a rival at a knock down fee just because he wants to leave? He has three years on his contract!

If he is sold to Arsenal it should be at a premium and if nobody else comes in for him. I'd rather see him rot in the reserves until January or sell him to even a club like Chelsea (who I despise) rather than Arsenal after the way they have conducted themselves.
+2 #1 Choco P 2013-08-11 21:54
everyone knows Rodgers promised suarez could move if they didn’t get CL. He’s bricking it and has obviously not told john henry.

Rodgers is doing his best to paint suarez as a *** (not hard) and keep the fan base onside when the inevitable happens.

There are three facts revolving around this saga.

1. With or without suarez, liverpool are still *** and their best hope is to get back into europa league football.

2. If liverpool were still a big club, Rodgers wouldn’t be their manager

3. If liverpool sell suarez, to anyone then henry and Rodgers look like bigger chumps and it’ll cost Rodgers his job.

Btw, aren’t fsg currently trying to sell the club? Gives henry a nice little out WHEN the fans turn on him.

I’m going to love it when I see suarez holding the no.11 shirt and the joy I will get from hearing the scousers excuses. Immense!!!