There’s been a lot of mumble about Cesc Fabregas recently. He uncharacteristically spoke out regarding his unhappiness as a bit-part player at Barcelona, leading to a lot of talk about whether he might make a return to Arsenal ( he has said the only club he’d leave Barca for is Arsenal).

There have been those who are desperate for his return, still harbouring love for him, those who despise the man and don’t want him anywhere near Arsenal, and those who are somewhere in-between the two.

Are all sins forgiven?

We’ll run through exactly how Cesc Fabregas came to leave Arsenal for Barcelona. After being tapped up by Barcelona players like Andres Iniesta and Xavi at the World Cup, as well as having Pepe Reina of Liverpool force a Barca shirt over his head, he asked Arsene Wenger if he could move to Barca.

Barca backed this up with a large bid, that was rejected by Arsenal. He was then convinced to stay for at least another year, then signing a huge contract extension for five years, and stating his long term future was at Arsenal.

He had another excellent season, marred by a few things. There was the backheel against Barcelona in the Champions League that was so poorly placed it almost seemed like an assist for them. Then there was his insistence on playing despite being injured, followed by his complaints that he was “stagnant from playing all the time” at Arsenal. Because you know, starting every game isn’t something world class players do, is it?

He then started pressing for a move to Barcelona, refusing to go on Arsenal’s Asia tour, feigning injury and going on strike to force the move. Eventually he paid off part of his Arsenal contract himself to force Arsenal to accept a lower bid from Barcelona, and got his wish. He enjoyed a great first season at Barcelona, but things seem to have turned a bit pear-shaped for him.

From one extreme to the other

Despite his achievements, Fabregas has only played the full 90 of 9 out of 41 league games at Barcelona. He’s out of form at the moment, and is clearly frustrated on the pitch. From playing too much, he’s now upset that he’s so often on the bench (even though he’s joined now by Alex Song). In reality it all seems  bit ungrateful and whinging.

Arsene Wenger may not mind.

It’s well known that Arsene loves Cesc. Not surprising really. There’s a strong case for him being the best player to ever play for Arsenal. This is a man that broke into the Invincibles aged 17, and forced them to change their style just to fit his incredible talents. He was the focal point of Arsenal’s “Project Youth” side. It’s no suprise that when he was sold, Wenger demanded a 30m first option to buy clause if Barcelona ever chose to sell him, which in all honesty is unlikely.

“I came here to see out my career, but if the boss wants me to go, I’ll go. I won’t make it easy for him though”. A mixture of commitment and non-commitment there, but I think Cesc will get over his issues.

Do we need him?

This may sound silly, but it’s a serious point. Arsenal were reliant on Cesc when he was there. They were. It’s no surprise that goals and assists have been far more evenly spread out now he’s gone. With the addition of Santi Cazorla, Arsenal have more creativity, but within a team basis. Santi won’t be the star player like Cesc, but an important cog. Arsenal are building a team, not a collection of people to go with a star. A player of Fabregas’s calibre makes it so that everything goes through him, and teams are reliant on him. He would take Arsenal backwards, quite possibly.

Of course, Santi could move to the wings and Fabregas could form a super-possession pivot with Arteta and Wilshere, but even then he’d be the main man again. And Arsenal don’t need that anymore. They’re a team now.

Maybe he will come back. Maybe he’ll apologise for his behaviour, and be forgiven. But don’t assume that because an Arsenal star has come back to the team, the team will be better.

Poll Results

Yes! - 58.8%
No! - 38.3%
I'll write my own answer in comments - 2.9%

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#40 Onaolapo Olusegun 2012-09-12 15:12
If he really want to come back let him come back but left to me,we don't really need him 'cos he disappointed us when we needed him.We can always get a substitution,when he left RVP sprang out and when RVP left too someone else will definitely come out.I think we need to give rooms to the young stars behind.Thanks
-1 #39 Sean 2012-09-11 19:56
You people are crazy. 30 million for FABREGAS is a steal. He's only 25 for god's sake

I don't care what team needs or doesn't need him, that's a deal. I still remember his Tottenham goal... oh man
#38 TGooner 2012-09-10 15:41
You see we need him..hell we needed him and he choose to leave us. He would be a very important addition to us.....the problem is he will be coming just coz he is surplus at Barca and is bitterly frustrated, i would rather we have him if his motives were different.
-2 #37 Sky 2012-09-10 13:41
Cesc, pls come back. We desperately need u.
+2 #36 @KOM56 2012-09-09 14:37
Cesc returns and what happens to Jack and the other young talents we are grooming. He had his chance, he had the option to stay and be a Legend...he chose to win elsewhere so lets respect that.

That said, should he return, he must fight for his place and it'll be a fresh start for him. Like many institutions, a break in service for more than 3 months is not counted as continuing service :)

What goes around, comes around.
+3 #35 pila 2012-09-08 14:17
We do not need him, at all. If i had 30 million pounds, i would invest in a good and young centre forward and a defender. In midfield we have Santi, Diaby, Arteta, Wilshire, AOC, that french guy whose name i cannot spell, Fringpong, Ramsey, and other kids coming up. Why would i go and spend 30 million pounds on someone whose heart rests elsewhere?
-4 #34 ricky 2012-09-08 13:09
We need Cesc, his very special for Arsenal.. Arsenal will be a perfect team if Cesc come to Arsenalthis season
-4 #33 ricky 2012-09-08 13:09
We need Cesc, his very special for Arsenal.. Arsenal will be a perfect team if Cesc come to Arsenalthis season
+10 #32 Wendy 2012-09-06 20:30
Need him NO, want him YES. He would be an ever present example in the dressing room to remind players contemplating leaving that the grass is not always greener on the other side - that Arsenal is the best place to be.
+2 #31 danny 2012-09-06 19:14
sorry but...fvck nasri
+2 #30 RAPHAEL TJITURI 2012-09-06 19:09
If I have a lost SON I can go and get HiM!!! Let Him come back if ther is a chance 4 HiM!!! HE is our KID. Alow him 2 come back HOME.

BUT ME I DON'T HAVE anything thn
M A GUNNER 4 life WItH OR WITHOUT trofy!!!!! GUNNER MAKE me HAPPY
+5 #29 RAPHAEL TJITURI 2012-09-06 19:09
If I have a lost SON I can go and get HiM!!! Let Him come back if ther is a chance 4 HiM!!! HE is our KID. Alow him 2 come back HOME.

BUT ME I DON'T HAVE anything thn
M A GUNNER 4 life WItH OR WITHOUT trofy!!!!! GUNNER MAKE me HAPPY
-1 #28 RomanianGunner 2012-09-06 18:18
he is a world class player, so , we need him!:) i wish to see him back soon!
+2 #27 Manuel Odeny 2012-09-06 17:39
He can go to hell on a one way ticket. I voted a BIG NO, he's past sell-by-date for gooners and by leaving the club like that he messed us up, it will be bad morale for players. It's like Barbatov or Owen going back right now to Spurs and Liverpool because they left when they were hot..... Cesc should cool his heels at Barca bench and follow what took him there and Arsenal lacked, (selfish) Ambition.
+6 #26 RodB 2012-09-06 15:26
Brilliant player but it was his choice to leave the club
I agree with some fans we would love him to come back
He is not having the best of Times at barca and would be great addition to the squad
He is not getting game time but surely he knew this when he left
+6 #25 Amit 2012-09-06 15:05
I dont think we need Cesc. He chose to leave us.
We r building a new team & with wilshire,ramsey,gnar by,walcott if he stays,eisfield,our future looks good & am sure AW will add some fire into our defence & attack. Future looks good even without Cesc & present team is & will do good.
-2 #24 phuti marua 2012-09-06 14:21
We all know that Arsenal have injury problems.n there is also what we call fatigue.we need more options in midfield that's the engine of a team.I don't care hw Cesc left but I say we need him in the team.he's a excellent player n will add much more needed creativity in the team.carzola to the left n fabregas CAM we will undoubtedly challenge for the title
-3 #23 @jigz-1 2012-09-06 14:20
Of course we need him he is a great player so player so kid
ourself we don't need him.
+3 #22 Bonolata Sen 2012-09-06 13:56
Fabregas needs Arsenal more than Arsenal needs him.He could develop into a much better player if he would have stayed in Arsenal.
-1 #21 NGELE 2012-09-06 13:27
Honestly Fab, will under no means be rejected to an infamous welcome to Arsenal FC. We loved him and his comeback will be a dream come true because he would obvious get playing, regular first team and chance to redeem his image as a legend
-9 #20 Jonathan Shiri 2012-09-06 13:05
I think we need him then we can play 4-4-2
1Wojciech Szczesny
2 Sagna 4 koscielny 5 Vermaelen 3 Gibbs

7Podolsk. 6Diaby 8 Wilshere. 11 Cazorla
10 Fabregas
9 Giroud



On The bench will be Mannone Jenkinson. Mertesacker Arteta. Coquelin Chamberlain Gervinho and Walcott
This will be the best dream team
-1 #19 steve 2012-09-06 13:00
do we need him, not right now, but arteta is geting old, and we have a super talented roster of mifield players, however they all have one thing in common..ther all made of glass, so with that in mind you cannot have enough back up super talented players, id have him back in a heart beat, hes world class and he truely loves arsenal...much like henry, and come on guys...everyone makes a poor decisions r 2 along the way
+3 #18 Danny 2012-09-06 12:00
We do not need Fab but if he ever wanted a return the door would always be open for him. You can never have enough quality players. Arteta only has a couple of years left so there is where he'll fit right back in.
+2 #17 Yuddy 2012-09-06 11:51
actually we need Alex Song Not Him anymore. He has Betrayed Arsenal, But Alex Song was Forced by Arsenal Management To Move to Barca. We Don't Need Traitor, We Need Loyal Man.
+5 #16 Skizo 2012-09-06 10:42
*** him , we dnt need him.
+3 #15 Edwin 2012-09-06 06:33
We dont really need him.. Now there is Santi

He will be 26 by next may..Isco would be a better choice.. Santis teammate..He is just 20 years old..

Cesc hv a 48.5 in trnsfrmarkt whereas Isco is 10.5.. So Isco would be a better addition..And if Cesc is available for a very cheap trnsfr amnt and if te board decides to brings him back..i will love to see him back as a gunner..
+1 #14 hari 2012-09-06 03:24
Quoting Rudy:

Lastly, we are not getting back the old Francesc Fabregas we new. No.
We're getting the UEFA Champions League Winner, World and European Champion, and an undesputable worldclass player.


when did he win the Champions League??
btw he was the World and European Champion when he was with us too...
+1 #13 wali 2012-09-06 01:31
I was really sad when he leave Arsenal. I was his #1 fan and he look up to him at Arsenal. He's my idol at Arsenal. But we know why he leave. But we know why he leave Arsenal for Barcelona. I dont mind him joining us back. More creativity in midfield area. More competition for other young player. Better for Arsenal as there's a back up. I forgive him. Do you?
+5 #12 Samir 2012-09-06 01:08
Wet don't need him but it would be such a great addition to our squad. I'd love to have him back.
+6 #11 Olivier 2012-09-06 00:11
Come on, Cesc is welcome back. He left to fulfill a childhood dream at Barcelona, we shouldn't begrudge him that. Deep down, he's also an Arsenal man, and we appreciate him more here than anywhere else.
-3 #10 Rudy 2012-09-05 23:51
I won't pretend to be Wenger like many others do, and say 'We don't need him, Diaby/Ramsey/Rosicky or whoever is a top-class player'.
Fair play to them, as well as Arteta but not even Santi Cazorla is up to the Fabregas standard.

Fabregas coming back would mean a lot of positive things for Arsenal. Not just on the pitch but in the dressing room, the media, and in the Football world.

Lastly, we are not getting back the old Francesc Fabregas we new. No.
We're getting the UEFA Champions League Winner, World and European Champion, and an undesputable worldclass player.

If 30 Million is the price of that, Mr. Hill-Wood better take his checkbook out as soon as the opportunity arises.

Now, before you throw your dislikes, thumbs down or whatever at this, at least think about it for a while.
+6 #9 aabbs7 2012-09-05 23:49
hes a class act no doubt, a great player, but im loving the new set up, the new style. I cant see him getting stuck in, tracking back or keeping his head up when we getting wacked. I hope iaby gets an extended run in the side now, hes playing in his natural position for once and seems 2 b lapping it up. We need 2 move forward as a team, not move back.
+1 #8 Mo Isa. 2012-09-05 23:12
Cesc left me in the rain when I needed him most. It will be difficult to forgive such a player we gave so much. Look at the age he played at the world cup, look at the role we gave him in our midfield, look at the love we showered, look at how deserted he left us.

I'm sad. To hell with him. We warned him but did not heed to our warnings. Refused to learn from Hleb and the likes of Flamini. We don't need him. We re better without him.
+3 #7 Muhannad 2012-09-05 22:55
If Cesc came back, it will be a huge boost to the whole team. If cesc comes back we'd be topppp contenders for titles with our strong midfield (3 Spaniards). If Cesc comes back we WILL win the EPL ;)
+1 #6 Ibi 2012-09-05 22:53
will love to see him back... We will have plenty options
#5 greg 2012-09-05 22:26
I d rather be honest and say tat Arsenal don't him, it was such a pain and so diffuclt for Arsene to build a team without him and now we might have it. We have been so criticised about loosing our best player AND we got to pay 30 m for a guy we sold 35 m ? no way and even though I like the player and everything he did for us. he has choosen to rot on Barcelona's bench, he has been warmed, leave him wait
+6 #4 Eileen Hartnett 2012-09-05 22:16
Every team could do with CFS, every team would want a CFS. he maybe Spanish born, but he's AFC bred.
+1 #3 Gabrielmarley 2012-09-05 22:06
Let assume he's a prodigal son and let forgive him and if truly is coming, please let allow him so that in our midfield, we would have an option. We need him because he is a great player.
+3 #2 Lucas 2012-09-05 22:05
We don't 'need' him but it would be magical if he did return, he's a quality player and would certainly help us out.
+1 #1 Ben 2012-09-05 21:58
We don't need him, but he is awesome, fabregas then cazorla in his natural right wing position would be em ensue along with arteta Wilshire diaby what a great midfield with so much depth